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Message: [QUOTE="dbitel, post: 470947, member: 15503"] DM, being OOP isn't nearly as large a problem as you seem to think. There are just about no players actually good enough to have their bluffing frequencies good enough to exploit it, and just about no1 fires 3 barrels, which makes a c/c c/f line or a c/c c/c c/f line absolute money OOP. The whole point is that I WANT to give up the initiative in the hand, as thats quite clearly the best way to get value vs 95%+ of his range (even though it means losing the pot with the best hand some of the time). Now while I'm obv not the best player in the world, I've spent a lot of time doing calculations and thinking/talking about these situations on another site and with players far better than myself. So although in the 45seconds, I won't know the exact EV of the decision, the more and more you see a situation, the more you you get an instictive feel of the most +EV decision. If he checks behind the turn, I can guarentee you that 90%+ of the time, he has a hand we were getting 0 strteets of value from until we checked the flop. Checking the flop is a very long term view and not short sighted at all IMO. You say that there is correlation between easyness to play and most +EV. This is true for bad players, but I'm sure that you can see the better a player one becomes, the less and less these 2 are correlated. So as a result, we should always strive to take the line that is the most +EV. If you bet the flop, how do you respond to a raise? What about your turn plan if called? With AJo, I think checking flop is even more important than with the FD, as our hand is in desperate need to get to showdown, and betting the flop is basically a bluff [/QUOTE]

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