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Message: [QUOTE="Four Dogs, post: 380310, member: 2668"] No twizzy, he gave him approx 4:1 odds to call. With the gut he was chasing 11:1 on the turn. In order for the implied odds to make this profitable in the long term he would need to make up the difference which in this case would be 7:1, so about 2100 chips. This is just about what he had left. How confident were you nate that you could extract this much more if you scored on the turn? I wouldn't call you retarded, but I don't have much confidence in the long term profitability of this play. Now, for the part that really riles me. Someone calls you a retard and you ask him not to hate you? Nate, have some self respect. You owe this chump NO apologies! It's you're hand to play however you feel like. [/QUOTE]