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Message: [QUOTE="fundiver199, post: 6188203, member: 397965"] Preflop Obviously totally fine to raise it up against limpers with KK. Like the big sizing as well. Flop First of all what can a "good aggressive reg" even have, that he initially limped in with from out of position in a 3 blind structure and then called a massive raise out of position? A small pocket pair maybe? But what else would such a player take for this line? Its not like, he was getting a good price, and he is out of position. So I would assume, that if it was good enough to call your raise, then it was also good enough to put in the raise himself? So right off the bat, when I am facing this check-raise, I am not loving it. I think, it smells like pretty much 77 exactly, since QQ and 99 would probably be raised preflop for value. Now obviously we cant fold putting our opponent on just one hand, but if the player type description is correct, I am really struggling to figure out, what else he can possibly have here either for value or as a bluff. So reluctantly calling. Turn The turn card did complete some hands like KJ, J8 and QT, although I am not sure, how relevant that actually is. The opponent now overbet jam, and we have to make a decision. If we want to defend "correctly", there are some arguments for calling with this hand. You block KJ, which is now the nuts, you dont block clubs, and if you are behind to a set, you picked up a gutshot, so at least you now have some equity with 6 outs. So I guess, this hand is better to call down with than for instance AcAs. But I am just still really confused, why this kind of player would even get to the flop with any hand at all, that he might now be bluffing with? Like say T8 of clubs. Why call that massive raise out of position preflop, when he can just fold? So I kind of lean towards going with my initial read, that this smells so much like a reg setmining, hitting it on the flop and now fastplaying to protect against draws. So I probably fold, unless I have some kind of specific read on him. [/QUOTE]

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