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Message: [QUOTE="aardvark, post: 5886664, member: 452111"] Hello again guys/cc if you're still there :-) I've been giving this more thought and maybe over-analysing it at the level I'm playing, but I'm trying to learn and improve and it's a really intriguing play that I've never seen before. Maybe I'm giving the guy too much credit but I suppose he knew it was going to be hard to get much value. I can see how it could be very useful to underrep, esp v high spr (does that mean the sizing matters less?) The small cbet still feels fundamentally wrong though. I know we don't have to play optimally, if there even is an optimal play here, but this is where I'm at...(any thoughts?) I don't think we need to be induced to raise strong holdings and draws will call/raise v a bigger bet if they're going to chase. I reckon cc was thinking/implying more that it's great to be under-repped if you come up against a raise. It's extremely unlikely that someone also has a set or 2 pair on that board if he has 3 aces, especially as played...he knows either of us may well be 3betting 88 55 pre. It's unlikely 8x without a club (gifting flush) continues beyond the turn with his read on our play, but if we are calling flop we'll probably call bigger at this level (well, sb will anyway ;-). So there's only realistically draws, and they're the one hand you're trying to deny. So should we not maximise our value and give the wrong odds as normal? Even if it's just a few more chips. I know the spr is still going to be v large, and he's still well in it if a flush/straight hits, but I can't help thinking that we should just play fundamentally correctly? Thanks [/QUOTE]

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