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Message: [QUOTE="300HPGOD, post: 6039619, member: 305911"] These are the spots we all hate right lol. Personally I would not be 5 bet jamming about 120 BBs with JJ. The stats on villain are interesting that they 4 bet decent amount of the time and there could be some bluffs here depending on villain but personally I am not jamming this here. Then it comes down to calling or folding. I guess if you really think villain is over agg but could find a fold button you could almost click it back 5 bet which looks like the nuts but I dont think that will work and if you had the nuts here you could just call and then check raise/jam the flop on any flop so it really comes down to calling or folding. If I think that villain 4 bet range is AQ suited+ and even 99+ along with some air hands I still think folding is best. There are too many times we will be up against it here plus we are out of position after making this call. Even when we have a fighting chance against an AQ or something any flop that has a A, Q or even a K is going to scare us. You would need air to show up here fairly often imo to make this a good call. I think the play is probably to fold or jam and I already said I dont like jamming this deep with JJ. As played the flop that came up is brutal as every Ax beats you, the pairs you were beating in 1010 and 99 got the set and bigger pairs of course are bigger pairs. Folding is correct unless you think villain can fold KK or QQ and want to get tricky (might be too FPS though). If you think you can get them to fold then you can call or raise here and rep the A but that is a higher variance play. KK and QQ are definitely in the range of villain but so is Ax. Its a risky play but you can consider it here. [/QUOTE]

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