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Message: [QUOTE="GreenDaddy1, post: 6316319, member: 337531"] Just wondering about the flop, what line are others taking? I think the rest seems trivial as played. CO is an unknown but I get the impression after only a few hands they are recreational. The preflop limp and broken stack suggests they aren't great, so they might be calling a 3 bet with all sorts of stuff outside what a reg is calling with. BTN I have 2100 hands on. 16/14/2. RFI of 39 on the button. Fold to 3 Bet of 69. 4 bet ratio of 1.5. [B]Pacific Poker - $0.05 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players[/B] [I][URL="http://www.pokertracker.com"]Hand converted by PokerTracker 4[/URL][/I] [B]BTN: 111.8 BB[/B] [B]Hero (SB): 112.2 BB[/B] BB: 79 BB UTG: 37.8 BB MP: 104.4 BB [B]CO: 86.6 BB[/B] [B]Hero[/B] posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB [B]Pre Flop:[/B] [I](pot: 1.4 BB)[/I] [B]Hero[/B] has Q[COLOR=red]♦[/COLOR] Q[COLOR=red]♥[/COLOR] [I]fold[/I], [I]fold[/I], [B]CO[/B] calls 1 BB, [COLOR=red][B]BTN[/B] raises to 4 BB[/COLOR], [COLOR=red][B]Hero[/B] raises to 16 BB[/COLOR], [I]fold[/I], [B]CO[/B] calls 15 BB, [B]BTN[/B] calls 12 BB [B]Flop:[/B] [I](49 BB, 3 players)[/I] 3[COLOR=black]♠[/COLOR] 6[COLOR=black]♠[/COLOR] A[COLOR=black]♣[/COLOR] [COLOR=red][B]Hero[/B] bets 18.6 BB[/COLOR], [B]CO[/B] calls 18.6 BB, [B]BTN[/B] calls 18.6 BB BTN can maybe have top pair decent or top kicker, or some sort of medium 2nd pair. Some flush draws or backdoor flush draws to the nut flush. CO I find it very hard to range at this point, but they could easily have totally missed this flop. The SPR is pretty brutal. I feel like a jam is a bad idea that folds our nearly everything i am beating, but don't like the idea of being passive and facing a bet, so I bet just over 1/3. If BTN was to raise me I felt I could fold, his stats indicated he very rarely raised a flop c bet. If CO raised I think I'd have folded without having a sure read they would do that with a flush draw or who knows what. Anyone checking here? What sized bets are you check/calling if so? I am struggling to put into words what this flop c bet is achieving though, besides blocking and preventing having to call a large bet. Basically I felt it was a very awkward spot and my plan for the turn was vague. It seems like a spot where checking and hoping for a cheap showdown is rather naive, almost certainly at some point someone is betting and a lot more money is going into this pot. So yeah, would appreciate help unpacking this one. [B]Turn:[/B] [I](104.8 BB, 3 players)[/I] Q[COLOR=black]♠[/COLOR] [COLOR=red][B]Hero[/B] bets 77.6 BB and is all-in[/COLOR], [B]CO[/B] calls 52 BB and is all-in, [B]BTN[/B] calls 77.2 BB and is all-in With this SPR I just jam it in, I think this part is pretty trivial. If someone has a flush it just sucks to be me. Result here really doesnt matter. [SPOILER] [B]River:[/B] [I](311.2 BB, 3 players)[/I] 3[COLOR=red]♥[/COLOR] [B]BTN[/B] shows A[COLOR=red]♦[/COLOR] K[COLOR=black]♣[/COLOR] (Two Pair, Aces and Threes) Main Pot [260.8 BB]: (Pre [COLOR=gray]33%[/COLOR], Flop [COLOR=gray]57%[/COLOR], Turn 0%) Side Pot#1 [50.4 BB]: (Pre [COLOR=gray]39%[/COLOR], Flop [COLOR=gray]91%[/COLOR], Turn 0%) [B]Hero[/B] shows Q[COLOR=red]♦[/COLOR] Q[COLOR=red]♥[/COLOR] (Full House, Queens full of Threes) Main Pot [260.8 BB]: (Pre [COLOR=gray]54%[/COLOR], Flop [COLOR=gray]5%[/COLOR], Turn 21%) Side Pot#1 [50.4 BB]: (Pre [COLOR=gray]61%[/COLOR], Flop [COLOR=gray]9%[/COLOR], Turn 100%) [B]CO[/B] shows K[COLOR=black]♠[/COLOR] 4[COLOR=black]♠[/COLOR] (Flush, King High) Main Pot [260.8 BB]: (Pre [COLOR=gray]14%[/COLOR], Flop [COLOR=gray]38%[/COLOR], Turn 79%) [B]Hero[/B] wins 245.6 BB [B]Hero[/B] wins 47.4 BB[/SPOILER] [/QUOTE]

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