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[QUOTE="John A, post: 6401714, member: 88730"]
I think this is one of those example hands of how GTO play is warping the minds of micro players and losing them lots of money.

1) At micro levels, if you're c-betting this small multi-way with Q high, you're just burning money. Either check or bet larger. You're not setting yourself up for a clever c-betting range by betting just over 1/4th pot, you're betting SIXTEEN CENTS into a pot with two players who will call w/ any range of hands.

2) If you want to play the GTO range game and bet that amount on the flop, then you should be over betting that turn, otherwise your 1/4th c-bet was pointless. But you don't, you check.

3) On the river, you don't need to be thinking about a bluffing range. A micro player called a draw heavy flop multi-way and then donk potted when one of them came in. He's not thinking about your clever GTO balanced ranges, he's thinking... "I hit my flush, I hope he has a K!"

You guys are taking an approach to the game that is needed against high level players, and applying it to players who are still level 1 and maybe sometimes level 2 thinkers. You're going to lose money by doing that, and you may never win enough to build a role to be able to properly apply GTO play to players that need it. It's fine to learn GTO if it makes you more thoughtful, but you should be learning exploitative play first (no you don't need GTO as a baseline), and taking advantage of all the HUGE mistakes your opponents are making constantly.
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