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Message: [QUOTE="fundiver199, post: 6992139, member: 397965"] Preflop Dont think AJ is that marginal, but it is the worst offsuit AX, I would open from EP. Flop Not much to say here. As you say, time to get some value from the whale to your left. If BB check-raise, thats not great, but you will just need to make some decisions. Turn Jh is not quite as great a card, as it looks at first glance. Sure you improve to two pair. But if someone had you beat on the flop, they would likely have raised. Or in case of AK 3-bet preflop. So you mainly moved further ahead of hands, you were beating already, and the board got a lot wetter. If it was 8d on the flop, then KT and T9 got there, another flushdraw turned up, and hands like AT or A9 now has a gutshot. Still I think, its fine to bet for value. Now of course come the interesting spot, since BB check-raise, and he go so large, its esentially a non all-in all-in. Meaning you cant really call here and fold later, and you also cant expect him to bluff the river. So if you continue, the play is to jam rather than call. If it was 8d, he could have turned a straight, but would he overcall on the flop with just a naked gutshot? If not its only KT/T9 of diamonds and maybe of hearts, that got there, so 2-4 combos. Then there are the sets and better two pair, but how many of those can he realistically have? AA and QQ would almost always 3-bet preflop, and 88 is an obvious flop check-raise unblocking everything, that can continue. The most logical hand would be AQ, which is 6 combos. And then there are his bluffs, the most likely of which would be some sort of combodraw with hearts or diamonds. You unblock those, and for that reason I could see getting it in here, but I dont think, folding is terrible either. Its close and a lot depends on, what you think about this opponent and perhaps even live reads or feels. [/QUOTE]

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