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Message: [QUOTE="gustav197poker, post: 6033762, member: 393841"] In general I tend to be cautious with stats. Because many times the information they provide has a significant bias. Mainly when the hand samples are small. I recommend looking primarily at the VPIP and PFR values, to get a superficial idea of the type of player we are dealing with (but not to rely too much on stats). In this case, it is interesting that villain (HJ) does not have a 3-bet range preflop, for a sample of 97 hands. Also if we know that HJ plays a VPIP: 13%, these are data that should be considered when V places a big size OTF donk bet on 4MWP. And the main reason is the narrow range of the hand opener (the MP). It is true that the MP range devalues significantly when the opener checks on this board OTF. However, this does not exclude the possibility that MP will seek to enter check-raise mode, when he has a strong value but with inverse implied probabilities of improving on the next fairways (again, do not trust too much on stats). But the latter did not happen and now the HJ has the rank advantage, because after our call and BB's call, the strongest values are represented by the donk bettor, while BB and hero concentrate all the flush draws combos. On the turn the story doesn't change much. The villain is still betting big, and our perceived range perhaps gets a little more equity, with new draws. (our values have all Q's, that are possibly caught in this spot) Obviously nobody can expect 3X in the V range, however it is possible to include the AK combos in the HJ range, given the passivity of his preflop game. Of course it's not a big mistake to call OTR, especially if we are concentrating on balance. The problem is that the ranks become unbalanced more often when the pot is multi-player. Also in this sequence, we clearly do not represent a good bluff catcher and it is unlikely that we will get value from worse hands, given the super passive characteristics that this villain has. Greetings. [/QUOTE]

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