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$25 NLHE 6-max: 3bet Pot, What's My Calling Range For This Overbet Shove on the River?
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[QUOTE="UkoChebuko, post: 5748722, member: 353461"] I don't know WTF is happened here. I thought this is an irony. I wrote a long posts and at the end only an irony. But whatever, my English is bad, maybe this is the reason., sorry for misunderstanding. I will write a long post, as apology. This is my opinion. I am not a coach, I don't care about "the image", I am nobody and I just want to help, I like to write about the poker. First, you range from UTG. The size...I assume you use 3x. This is the the best size. Can be 2.8x, but not smaller. Can be smaller, but at least at NL50, to early for 2.5x. Two reasons for that. 1.Small FE and narrow 3bet vs UTG at this limit. Ofc this limit is different than NL10, but still this size is the best. 2.This size is more common. The people use this size more often. You need to use "the common moves", if they are not bad for your limit. In this case 3x is not bad, because the reason one. Your HUD will be more "valuable". You info will be more correct. For example, this 3bet form this guy in the hand is more often vs 3x size. If you use 2.5x, his range may be different, the percentage can be different. Ofc you can use "special stats", Note Caddy or custom stats to see his range vs 2.5x. But your Hud will be very complex. And this is not so good. You can use this "space" from the HUD, your time for "reading" for something else. Your range from UTG: [COLOR=#222533]55+, A2s+, K8s+, Q9s+, J9s+, T9s, 89s, 87s, 76s,65s,ATo+, KJo+[/COLOR] Imo you can't use this range as default. Some of the hands are -EV in a long run. Without info. I mean without any info. You still can see the country , the stack size as well. You know about the tendencies from this field. But the last is not enough, you can't use this info to change the default ranges. As I said , I will use that as max range from UTG. -K8s, +44, +QJo. Also you don't have rakeback in PS, the rake is not small, the cap is not "low". At this table...You have some info. This is +EV for all your hands. But I assume the average 3bet in this table is not so small. Can be small vs UTG, I don't know. I assume you have more than 50% fold vs 3bet, because of your range in this situation. Even with a caller (fish) you still fold so much hands. You must realize you will become a target for some people. Many people are using HUD, even some of the fishes. At this limit. You can see this with "vs Hero stats", but after some time. For this reasons you can't use such a wide range, the profit with the bottom range is so small, actually -EV without info. And in this situation very easy can become -EV, because the 3bet. This hands are -300bb/100hands vs 3bet (you can't call). I will use 13% range, because the info and because the fish. The fish is at the SB and this is good. If the fish was at CO, this is not very good, because you will face a squeeze often. There is an argument, you can use the bottom range for bluff 4bet to have smaller loses. But this is a "false" argument, because you always will have hands for fold, you always will have some hands for 4bet bluff (better hands for open raise, with more EV). Your defence vs 3bet... First, there is not such thing, like "the optimal frequency". From some positions (CO, UTG) as default our fold vs 3bet will be low. Because of the strenght of the range. Your "type of thinking". You have interest for the pot ods and the equity of your entire range. As I said this is wrong. You bottom range "will take" equity from you top range. Still the bottom range will be -EV call. You must thing about any hand in vacuum. Can you win more than -300/100 (fold). Or -250/100 (CO). And you must think about that before the open raise. Let's say KJo from UTG. This hand is very good, but not vs 3bet. You can't call that. JTs is not so strong, but you can call 3bet with this hand (most likely), also this hand is good vs two and more people, not like KJo. "You must think about that", I mean you just use some other range, more narrow, if there are a 3betors behind you. The balance...This limit is too low. No need for balance in any spot. Only exploit. You can call 100% in some spots, you can fold 100% in others. No any reasons for balance. You can use narrow range for open raise, even if the wide range for open raise is "defendable", "unexploitable". But the wide range will have less profit with the bottom (-EV). It is more profitable to use exploit and to use narrow range vs aggro playes. Vs different players you can use very wide range and fold vs 3bet with very high frequence. You will be "exploaitable", but this doesn't matter, because "you first are going for exploit". You "must" be exploitable for max profit at this limits. I mean this is "the second level of thinking", the best one. You think only for your hand, "in vacuum", and you think about his entire range. Is this hand is good vs his entire range... You hands for defence vs 3bet. You prefer the low suited connectors. This is a mistake. I know why you do that. But in a long run, hand like QJs will be more profitable. Also for your choice matters not only the percentage for 3bet, but also the type of range for 3bet. Polarized or depolarized. Vs depolarized ranges your hands have less EV. The hand, the topic.... As I said, I prefer bet OTT. If you choose check-call, then at this river your hands are bluff catchers. You don't have a "strong bluffcatcher". Only a "pure bluff catchers". Vs this size for bet (overbet). That's means your hands have very similar equity vs "second level type of thinking". If this guy plays very bad (first level), then your hands are weaker. He will check back some time with hand, which he must use for bet. Some of the hands will be stronger, because of the blocking effect. They can be blocking his value range (stronger), they can be blocking his bluff range (weaker). You can use some stats from the HUD. For other spots. To see his type of playing. You can use notes from the Note Caddy. even if they are not for this spot. To see the possible bluffs here and the frequency. But as default I think any pair will be +EV call here. Because his polarized range. Possible polarized range. Very possible... All this is only my opinion and can be wrong. Sorry for the offence. Sorry for my bad English. GL... [/QUOTE]
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