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Message: [QUOTE="loafaBREAD, post: 5856478, member: 440287"] [B] Actually, I did win this hand![/B] Had to post it since it put me in the tank a bit on the turn especially. ITH V bluffed off with AQo. So I did have some idea that he would pay us off when we hit (hence the turn call), as he pushes his value range pretty wide. I imagine AA, even AK would play this way. KJs may be in his range, sure- I don't have enough hands to look at his BvB 3! His 3! overall was 5 or 6 as I remember... which to me is tight but not unreasonable. AF was 4. Ok, so the contention comes with the pf call it seems. Knowing now that he can bluff off his stack, I think it is a call... def calling with 77-JJ and suited cons 89+ if one pair can be good most of the time. Just wondering if the value of these hands goes up or down deepstacked vs a tight/agrro V. [/QUOTE]