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Message: [QUOTE="vinnie, post: 5641393, member: 95995"] It would be nice to see even the basic stats for MP and BB. I am very confused about your bet sizing here, especially on the flop and turn. This is $2NL and players are weak calling stations (usually, although you don't provide any stats for these players). With antes, you could probably be raising 4.5-5.5 preflop. I don't absolutely hate 3.5, but I like to charge the bad players more. After the BB donks 1xbb on the flop, a pot sized raise would be to 17xbb. You have the board crushed, so full pot might not be wise, but still 9-10xbb would be better. And, if you raise to 10xbb and MP calls then you have a much better idea of what they might hold. Raising the 3xbb accomplished nothing and offered 6-1 odds to MP and better to BB. If either of them have a set, they need only 5.7-1 to call. Throw in some implied odds and they can easily call correctly with two pair as well. Turn is similar, the only thing that makes it even slightly confusing is the weak bets from BB and you. Turn raises are almost always very strong hands. The only semi-bluff hand that I could reasonably see here would be AK with the Ace of clubs, and you block that. This is always going to be a flush, trips, or a boat. And, it's probably not trips or a small flush. At worst, it is going to be a Q-x flush. Considering how small the bet is, I probably end up calling this with the plan of check-folding the river (expecting most flushes and trips to check it behind). River, we check and he goes for a full pot sized bet. That's a boat, at least 95% of the time and probably 100% at this limit. Turn 3bet bluffs that are followed by river pot-sized bluffs just aren't things at $2NL. Every step of the way you have made it seem like you had something. He is hoping you have something strong enough to call. You haven't given us any stats. So, I can't say which boat he likely showed up with. 88 seems likely, KK and 33 seem less likely. If they are a very loose fish, maybe he had K3s or 63s or evenn 83s. I would be a little shocked to see 66, but I expect to see 66 more often than I see a smaller flush. $2NL is a fairly easy game. Value bet often, value bet on the large side, slow-down and give up when the loose-passive players play back at you. They have hands. [/QUOTE]

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