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Message: [QUOTE="300HPGOD, post: 6141676, member: 305911"] Not sure if you knew anything about the 3 betting villain. If they 3 bet a lot then I think any action other calling or raising small is okay. If you have no information or know they 3 bet sparingly then I think you can call and evaluate on subsequent streets, do a raise as you did, or raise 3.5x or so. I say you can raise as you did since I think it will get the initial opener to fold a lot. This is important in the hand to get it heads up anyway with a hand that is still vulnerable in QQ. You would then also still give yourself a chance to getaway from the hand if a bad flop occurs and still keep 1010 and JJ in the hand. I also think calling in this spot is fine for the same reasons as small raising is except you will be going multi way more often which obviously then your equity decreases. I personally dont like 3x or 4x raising over the 3 bet unless you already made up you are going with the hand (which is fine but dont raise there without knowing you are staying in the hand). As played on the flop I would discount slightly (although no where near entirely especially if you think villain is good) that villain has AA or KK. With this flop being so wet and any size bet is going to make you come pretty close to if not committed I would just go with the hand and put it in. If they have AA or KK and then they will get my chips here unless a card could come on the turn to make me consider folding (which it did). At this point betting as small as you did gives the right price for villain to draw to us and any size bet that makes them draw against the odds commits us. On the turn as played is tough since we know the ace was a bad card for us but if we check here any thinking villain will fire at us knowing we would bet with an ace. We would not be giving a free card on that board with that size pot with an ace. Therefore when we check against a good player here (its 2NL I know) its close to just throwing our hand in the muck. I see a case for either check folding there or just ripping. If we rip we do get KK to fold if KK made it this far which I doubt villain would just call that flop but its still remotely possible. I suppose we should be folding as played on the turn but I still advocate not letting it get to the turn without an easy all in decision or its already all in. [/QUOTE]

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