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Message: [QUOTE="loafaBREAD, post: 6123925, member: 440287"] Hey there, I heavily disagree with most of the advice above. Before I share my thoughts, I want to paraphrase from the book [I]Poker Math that Matters [/I](not to get all pretentious or anything!)[I]... [/I] The two skills needed in poker are 1) making accurate assumptions and 2) making the best decision based on those assumptions. Alright enough BS, let's go! [B]Pre:[/B] Facing a min 3-bet, the 4-bet is understandable. [I]I am actually against it[/I]- against a min 3-bet I like a polarised 4-bet strategy since I believe V's to be quite strong with the min 3-bet and TT doesn't like being 5-bet/shoved on. (A5s, A4s as bluffs, I wouldn't bluff any more than that. I do like your sizing, though) If your pool is different, please use your best judgement. [B]Flop: [/B]V donk leads 1/2 pot in a 4-bet pot. It's a wet board. When I put V on a donk range, it is a lot of hands betting for protection, with some high equity bluffs thrown in. So, 99-JJ, KQ, QJ, QTs, AQ no heart, and as 'bluffs/protection' donks, maybe AK on occasion, and Ax of hearts. [I]Please note that my range is off given his actual holding- this will happen all the time vs fish. It is more important to learn to use logic in decision making than it is to be exactly right about V's holdings. [/I] TT with a heart isn't looking too good against that range. V bets 1/2 pot which is setting up for a turn all-in. TT is near the bottom of our range here, in fact. We have AQ, QQ, KK, AA and AJhh, AThh which are all in better shape here. [B]This is why V's donk is so bad- this board heavily favours you. [/B]He is putting in money when, on average, he is behind! So to exploit this you fold your worst/ no equity hands and you can be aggressive with many other holdings quite liberally. [B]Takeaways-[/B] 1) make sure your continuing range is flexible based on v's bet size (for example, having TT with a heart you can continue vs a 1/4 pot bet). V's half pot donk is large given the SPR (stack to pot ratio) as in 4-bet pots bet sizes actually can get quite small. If you call with TT vs that size, what do you fold? If you determine TT calling on the flop is profitable (perhaps it is!) then it certainly is a fold on the turn. 2) make a note on this V. Mine would look like this: "Min 3! sq from sb 77, flat 4!, donk 1/2 pot Q73hh". in English, that reads "Min 3-bet squeeze from the sb with 77, flat 4-bet and donked 1/2 pot on this board..." This guys play is pretty bad, I would immediately mark him as a whale. My assumption was that V donks for protection... I still stick to that. It looked like V was afraid of the flush draw or seeing an A or K. Again, make a note and continue. [B]If V donks the best hand he could possibly have in a spot, then his checking range is super weak. [/B] Exploit this by over cbetting/barreling. [/QUOTE]

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