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Message: [QUOTE="Mac557, post: 6869747, member: 1033040"] He can certainly have lots of things you beat, maybe he turns 0% of this range into bluffs and they are all either value bets with > than your hand and check backs with < than your hand. Perhaps I'm doing it wrong, but the logic I used to go by back when I played was: open larger with your stronger ranges, so naturally I would 3x everywhere except the BTN/CO where it was 2.5x. I don't think doing it the other way around makes as much sense as you will be putting more money in and building a bigger pot with your wider ranges. OK. Then I assume you are Cbetting your entire range OTF + OTT? What do you do with KK/QQ here after you 4Bet and he calls and the board comes A-high? If your stance is that the river is a bet 100% of the time with your AK/AA then how does your KK/QQ play this without deviating from your nutted triple barrel line? I think it is perfectly fine to check the flop to induce. It means villain cannot exploit your underpairs so easily without giving up value to the top of your range. With many hands in a 4Bet pot where you have the nut advantage you are unlikely to be getting 3 streets of value anyway, so there is little difference between value OTF/OTT and value OTT/OTR (though he can pick up equity on the turn that makes him continue with an even wider range). Also, I don't know how to go back to the quote about folding out his bluffcatchers with your larger flop sizing, but if villain is always folding to 15BB but not 11BB with that part of his range - and you are always triple barrelling - then it will balance out because you get more value from his non-bluffcatchers on later streets by having a larger pot anyway, no? But hey, I could be totally wrong. Your logic does make sense, - I would just play it differently is all. In the end what happened? [/QUOTE]

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