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Message: [QUOTE="fundiver199, post: 6585744, member: 397965"] Preflop Its fine to 3-bet JJ in this situation, but your sizing is way to small. The standard size out of position is 4X, which would be 20c, and you only made it 8c. When you go this small, BTN is never going to fold, and this time you even picked up BB as well forcing you to go to a flop 3-ways out of position. Flop I would also bet here, but a small bet like half pot or even less is enough. You are not trying to make better hands fold, so this is a bet for value and protection, and the issue with going so large is, you make it to difficult for worse hands to continue. If someone have AQ or 44 and face a bet of more than pot, are they really going to give that action? Probably not, so when you go this large and still get action, it already become a real concern, that you might be beat. And its important to realise, you dont have the nuts here. Maybe they would have 4-bet QQ-AA preflop, so we can discount those hands. But because of your 3-bet sizing either player can easily have a 9. Hands like A9, K9, Q9, J9, T9, 98s, 97s are all a standard open from BTN, and when its just 3c more for them to call your 3-bet, of course they pay to see a flop. So you also need to think about protecting your stack, when you no longer have the best hand. Turn You should never have gotten to the turn this way, so its not even really worth analysing. But when you pile it in, now you are definitely creating a situation, where you are almost always beat, when you get action. Maybe occationally BTN can have a hand like TT or 88 and decide to not believe you. But the vast majority of the time you will get called by trips or occationally by the bottom boat, which is, what he actually had this time. [/QUOTE]

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