$2 NL HE 6-max: AK off oop , Where I wrong?

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NL Holdem 0.02(BB)
BTN ($1.32) [VPIP: 25% | PFR: 0% | AGG: 22.2% | Flop Agg: 0% | Turn Agg: 0% | River Agg: 66.7% | 3Bet: 0% | 4Bet: 0% | Cold Call: 40% | Hands: 12]
SB ($2.31) [VPIP: 15.4% | PFR: 13.5% | AGG: 23.1% | hands: 52]
BB ($0.84) [VPIP: 19.4% | PFR: 9.7% | AGG: 25% | Hands: 72]
HERO ($4.51) [VPIP: 21.4% | PFR: 18.1% | AGG: 30.1% | Flop Agg: 31.3% | Turn Agg: 30.4% | River Agg: 32.1% | 3Bet: 7.6% | 4Bet: 11% | Hands: 20259]
HJ ($2.18) [VPIP: 28.8% | PFR: 20.3% | AGG: 36.8% | Hands: 59]
CO ($4.02) [VPIP: 31.1% | PFR: 26.2% | AGG: 52.9% | Flop Agg: 61.5% | Turn Agg: 40% | River Agg: 66.7% | 3Bet: 5.9% | Fold to 3Bet: 66.7% | 4Bet: 0% | Hands: 61]

Dealt to Hero: K♠ A♦

HERO Raises To $0.05, HJ Folds, CO Raises To $0.14, BTN Calls $0.14, SB Folds, BB Folds, HERO Calls $0.09

Hero SPR on Flop: [2.62 effective]
Flop ($0.45): K♦ 5♣ 2♥
HERO Checks, CO Checks, BTN Checks

Turn ($0.45): K♦ 5♣ 2♥ 5♥
HERO Bets $0.13 (Rem. Stack: $4.24), CO Calls $0.13 (Rem. Stack: $3.75), BTN Calls $0.13 (Rem. Stack: $1.05)

River ($0.84): K♦ 5♣ 2♥ 5♥ 6♥
HERO Checks, CO Bets $0.57 (Rem. Stack: $3.18), BTN Folds, HERO Calls $0.57 (Rem. Stack: $3.67)

Preflop
When you are out of position, and someone has cold called the 3-bet, there is a fairly large incentive to 4-bet to either take it down preflop or get it heads-up against only one opponent. You are 200BB deep against CO, but you block AA and KK, and you can 4-bet fold against him, if you want to. Calling the 3-bet is clearly better than folding, but I kind of prefer a 4-bet here.

Flop
This is sort of the problem with taking a passive line preflop. Donk betting here is sort of weird, but when you check, you allow it to check through.

Turn
Since the flop got checked, I would bet larger here to build up a pot. Its highly unlikely, someone has a 5 in their hand, since its a 3-bet pot. I guess, CO could have A5s, but thats a whopping one combo, and BTN should have a very condensed range like 88-QQ, AQ+ or something like that.

River
Now the backdoor flushdraw completed, and both opponents can have it, since the flop got checked through. But the pot is still very small for a 3-bet pot, so can we not still get a bit of value from hands like 88-QQ or perhaps KQ/KJ, that played in a very passive way? Especially with the sizing, you chose on the turn, I prefer a small bet here (also known as block bet) like maybe 30% pot, and then my plan would be to fold to a raise.

As played your hand is a bluff catcher. There is no chance, a worse made hand like KQ/KJ check back the flop, just call the turn and then bomb the river on this runout. On one side a lot of hands can make it to the river, since there was no bet on the flop and only a very small bet on the turn. But on the other side he has another guy left to act behind him, and this reduce his incentive to bluff.

You also dont block the flush, but you block some potential bluffs like AQ/AJs/ATs etc. So looking at this from a distance, I think, folding is the best play here. But I dont think, anyone can blame you for making the call. In real time I would likely also do this a lot of the time. I would have to really be on my A-game to get away here.

Spoiler
So not a flush but a rivered set. If you bet bigger on the turn, he probably go away, and then this thing does not happen. Or you win more, when he miss.

Play passive get sucked out on. As said already turn bet should have been bigger and you could 4bet pre.

Station_Master said:

Play passive get sucked out on. As said already turn bet should have been bigger and you could 4bet pre.

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Ok, i think 4bet is much agressive

You're deep vs CO, but even you'll want to ISO him, so I'd be 4-betting most of the time.

As played, flop is OK, bet more on the turn. River is fine.

MatheusANF said:

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NL Holdem 0.02(BB)
BTN ($1.32) [VPIP: 25% | PFR: 0% | AGG: 22.2% | Flop Agg: 0% | Turn Agg: 0% | River Agg: 66.7% | 3Bet: 0% | 4Bet: 0% | Cold Call: 40% | Hands: 12]
SB ($2.31) [VPIP: 15.4% | PFR: 13.5% | AGG: 23.1% | Hands: 52]
BB ($0.84) [VPIP: 19.4% | PFR: 9.7% | AGG: 25% | Hands: 72]
HERO ($4.51) [VPIP: 21.4% | PFR: 18.1% | AGG: 30.1% | Flop Agg: 31.3% | Turn Agg: 30.4% | River Agg: 32.1% | 3Bet: 7.6% | 4Bet: 11% | Hands: 20259]
HJ ($2.18) [VPIP: 28.8% | PFR: 20.3% | AGG: 36.8% | Hands: 59]
CO ($4.02) [VPIP: 31.1% | PFR: 26.2% | AGG: 52.9% | Flop Agg: 61.5% | Turn Agg: 40% | River Agg: 66.7% | 3Bet: 5.9% | Fold to 3Bet: 66.7% | 4Bet: 0% | Hands: 61]

Dealt to Hero: K♠ A♦

HERO Raises To $0.05, HJ Folds, CO Raises To $0.14, BTN Calls $0.14, SB Folds, BB Folds, HERO Calls $0.09

Hero SPR on Flop: [2.62 effective]
Flop ($0.45): K♦ 5♣ 2♥
HERO Checks, CO Checks, BTN Checks

Turn ($0.45): K♦ 5♣ 2♥ 5♥
HERO Bets $0.13 (Rem. Stack: $4.24), CO Calls $0.13 (Rem. Stack: $3.75), BTN Calls $0.13 (Rem. Stack: $1.05)

River ($0.84): K♦ 5♣ 2♥ 5♥ 6♥
HERO Checks, CO Bets $0.57 (Rem. Stack: $3.18), BTN Folds, HERO Calls $0.57 (Rem. Stack: $3.67)

Spoiler

CO shows: 6♦ 6♣

CO wins: $1.91

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I have not seen spoiler
When we take actions preflop it is because we have a plan post flop---We base that plan on our perception of our Villains ranges. What is the CO range to 3 bet? What is the BTN range to flat a 3 bet? When we flat what is our range? Is a 4 bet better than a flat vs those ranges and for our perceived range OOP? Might we not be including AKoff in the AA range action?
If not why not? Will our V 5 bet bluff frequently with A rag?

As played assuming a wider CO 3 bet range and a BTN never flatting AA KK QQ based on HUD stats for CO-- player pool actions for BTN and every player always thinking AK is lurking (which means high check back frequency no chance to XR) what is another option for flop? As played what should our value plan be for turn when we check this flop---What are we targeting for value and what size gets max value?



spoiler ---How often is our V bluffing river? If low frequency-- fold. Also, if V are not thin value betting & bluffs--- fold

In this situation 4bet is better to save money in the others streets

At 2NL being OOP I am generally 4bet shoving here. I block AA/KK so I am not in bad shape even if called. Most times I am just gonna take the pot there.

The prob with 4betting here is that at 2NL many villains just flat so I am heading to the flop OOP and possibly in a 3way pot. Most times I will miss the flop and I am behind to any PP and first to act. That's a spot I try to avoid.

Of course, if you know the villains and you are reasonably confident they will fold to a non-shove 4bet, then go ahead and 4bet.