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Message: [QUOTE="300HPGOD, post: 6351064, member: 305911"] Probably really bad news for you to read that your thought process is the same as mine throughout this hand. Pre flop for me is a maybe or maybe not as I think on the button in a vacuum K8 suited is easily good enough to raise in an unopened pot as we should be wide from the button. I will say I factor in what the blinds are like though and if I know there is someone behind me that likes to 3 bet or is aggro or whatever I am not doing this. Not sure how many times they have 3 bet pre as you said they are loose but big difference between loose and passive pre to loose and aggressive pre. Easy call though as you are getting a good price after just a min raise. On the flop when they min bet, I treat that as a check so when I have a vulnerable top pair I would bet here as well. Not sure I go quite as big as you did. I get the protection angle but I probably go more like 55 cents which is not a big difference but it is a difference. When you get min raised, I am thinking the same as you. This is either some moron who really has no clue what they are doing or this is the nuts (same as my thought when I see a min raise out of position pre). I would be cautious here and if the villain was someone I knew to be a barreler then there is no way I could call 3 streets down so I would fold. In this case we know little about them as it sounds so I think we call and see what happens and maybe learn some things for future hands. On the turn I am on board with you and just call. No reason to raise and we are getting a cheap card to see flush potential so just call as you did. I dont think there is any other good option here. On the river I am also with you (again, should be scary for you lol) in thinking that now even their AA and KK (less likely since we block) hands are in trouble and we have 2nd flush against a villain who could still be wide. A jam on the river though is scary in the sense that would even a player like this who we hope doesnt know what they are doing be jamming the river when a flush came in but only bet 20 cents on turn with AA? Probably not so this would concern me but in the end I think we have to call with K high flush here even though this does feel like villain tried to make a move on the flop, bet very small on turn since they got a draw and then pounded river when they hit. I'm still calling though and seeing what the outcome. Take massive notes on this hand for future hands with this villain. [/QUOTE]

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