$10 NL HE 6-max: Would you call on the river here?

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GGPoker, Hold'em No Limit - $0.05/$0.10 - 6 players
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UTG: $10.05 (101 bb)
MP (Hero): $10.00 (100 bb)
CO: $10.46 (105 bb)
BU: $12.95 (130 bb)
SB: $9.75 (98 bb)
BB: $5.97 (60 bb)

Pre-Flop: ($0.15) Hero is MP with 7 7
1 fold, Hero raises to $0.25, 2 players fold, SB 3-bets to $0.90, 1 fold, Hero calls $0.65

Flop:
($1.90) 2 Q 6 (2 players)
SB bets $0.50, Hero calls $0.50

Turn:
($2.90) Q (2 players)
SB bets $2.18, Hero calls $2.18

River:
($7.26) 5 (2 players)
SB bets $6.17 (all-in), Hero calls $6.17

Total pot:
$19.60 (Rake: $0.45)
 
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Usually people have a hard time giving up pocket pairs, which I see quite often online. My first thought was the same when I see this hand history but taking another look, it doesn't really fall into this category.

His 3-bet indicated he has a good hand but his bet of a little more than 1/4 of the pot post-flop is a little weird to me. If he hit the queen, I guess he bet a bit more, so maybe it could be a value bet for a potential flush draw. His bet of 75% on the turn after the Q doesn't fit into my story, do idk.
The 5h on the river didn't complete a potential flush, so his bet may be a bluff for his potential missed flush.

I am not sure if I had called as well in your position but since he showed AKo, it was definitely the right decision. :)
 
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Yea I think I would have made the same call tbh, obviously I'd be aware of a possible higher pocket pair but I feel like that pre flop bet suggested more an suited connector or AK AQ type of hand.

Then I'd just go off gut feeling as to whether or not I believed he had the AQ for the final call as I believe it would be the only hand he'd still be playing with at that point.

So good call 🙂
 
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Not knowing the player, I wouldn't make the call, as he may have 88 and above, a dangerous game
 
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I probably would have just folded this on the turn, probably overfolding but then again turn barrells are probably heavily skewed towards good holdings at 10nl, I think many pairs 88 - JJ would check at some point, why stack off if you have decent SDV, but you lose to them anyway.
Villian could be doing this with flush draws but there aren't two many of them
 
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I would have folded there, i couple off days ago i was on the same spot and i run the hand on the flopsila and guess wath? we cant call with any pocket pair, not even JJ, he doesnt have enough bluffes in that spot,he has some flush draws but they arent enough to call, even iff he bluffes you AK you still cant call, is a spot in were the 3beter has a hudge advantag and we can only go with a set(or iff we now his 3bet is very wide and he is very agro post flop).
The maths tell you that you have a 30% odds,so you need him to have a bluff every 3 value hands
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So iff he jam you with all PP he has JJ,TT,KK,AA,plus the trips Q you need him to do so with AKo,AKs and AJs to be brake even, he still have some Ahigh he could Jam there(the grey ones he open but dont 3ple barrel). The problem is to know how manny A high he is willing to bluff or iff he bluffes there,because there are some players that dont ever bluff in this spot.
 
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I am not sure how villains plays which is always important but bet sizing in this hand is interesting to me to say the least. The flop contains two clubs and villain fires just over quarter pot bet. That to me signifies the potential flush does not scare them, and that they dont have an overly strong holding (since they are not betting for value/protection). Now if they bet this way every flop then thats different but without knowing that (not sure if you did in game or not) then this would get me thinking that my 77 is ahead. Qx should be betting more here to at least make drawing against clubs incorrect and if villain had a hand like 88-JJ I believe they would be more even with the overcard on the board. The only exception to all this would be potentially QQ or if they AA with the ace of clubs.

When the turn card comes out a Q, that obviously is a great card since it blocks the overpair on the board and makes it harder for villain to have Qx. Villain now bets out pretty large into the pot. What hands do this that bet 1/4th on flop? It would not be QQ as I was worried about before and is AA now going to go huge into you if there are two Qs on the board, probably not. So now I am thinking I am ahead again and given flop bet sizing took out bigger pairs I am calling here thinking this is a bluff of some sort most of the time.

River brings a nice under card to our 77s and I think if we believe we are good on the turn (which I think we are) then we have to call river as this bet falls in line with the turn bluff. I dont usually like bluff catching two streets as we are doing here but this is a spot where we should. Its a tough call but villain turns over a hand that I believe falls in line with their bet sizing for the entire hand.
 
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Usually people have a hard time giving up pocket pairs, which I see quite often online. My first thought was the same when I see this hand history but taking another look, it doesn't really fall into this category.

His 3-bet indicated he has a good hand but his bet of a little more than 1/4 of the pot post-flop is a little weird to me. If he hit the queen, I guess he bet a bit more, so maybe it could be a value bet for a potential flush draw. His bet of 75% on the turn after the Q doesn't fit into my story, do idk.
The 5h on the river didn't complete a potential flush, so his bet may be a bluff for his potential missed flush.

I am not sure if I had called as well in your position but since he showed AKo, it was definitely the right decision. :)
I wouldn't have raised with pocket 7s; it isn't much of a hand. Calling the flop is a bit dicey. You simply beat a bigger idiot.
 
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I wouldn't have raised with pocket 7s; it isn't much of a hand. Calling the flop is a bit dicey. You simply beat a bigger idiot.
have you ever looked at a preflop chart?
 
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in all honesty, you can probably fold on the flop.
in 10NL most players are 3betting too tight so without info, id just put him on something like JJ+/AQ+
... of course with info, depending what info it is, it makes it an easier decision... but again, without info thats the range id give him at these stakes

so technically you have odds to call the flop if he cbets with all AK, but you have to realize the hand doesnt end on the flop... if you call the flop, then you have to expect at least a double barrel on the turn, and a triple barrel some percent of the time. are you really prepared to call down all 3 streets with a mid pocket pair against his assumed 3bet range?
 
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At 10NL probably not, If he ends up triple barreling me off my 77s good for him he can have my money, I don't think people will be doing it often enough to burn you. At a higher buy in it's probably closer to a call
 
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A call is fine here. When the board pairs and he bets the turn large he's telling you he's polarized. If he's getting his stack in vs your range that can have a ton of Qx, then he either has air or Qx typically. People won't barrel off in 3-bet pots w/ a paired broadway at these stakes.
 
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A call is fine here. When the board pairs and he bets the turn large he's telling you he's polarized. If he's getting his stack in vs your range that can have a ton of Qx, then he either has air or Qx typically. People won't barrel off in 3-bet pots w/ a paired broadway at these stakes.
You say--- "A call is fine here" ---on the river? ----" People won't barrel off in 3-bet pots w/ a paired broadway at these stakes " Barrel off means bluff does it not? so why are we calling?

Sorry just not sure what you are saying exactly.

I like your polarized comment and sharing standard V play indicators helps as well

Thanks
 
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You say--- "A call is fine here" ---on the river? ----" People won't barrel off in 3-bet pots w/ a paired broadway at these stakes " Barrel off means bluff does it not? so why are we calling?

Sorry just not sure what you are saying exactly.

I like your polarized comment and sharing standard V play indicators helps as well

Thanks
"Barreling" just means betting multiple streets in a row. the term does not mean bluffing or not
 
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I would only pay for the flop, and I would immediately merge with a pocket pair so low. The second lady only adds to the fear. Experience has shown that you should not chase the thorn and the riverside. I could check it out, but more than three Beth is too much for me in that case.
 
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Hope you tagged him. He is a dumdum. Free money.
 
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well since we played his all-in pot on the river we should already be calling, his hand AK is one of the hands we would like to see + the pot odds to call are already pretty good, also the repeat queen on the turn gives us some reason to optimism), of course, we lose here to some combinations, but the opponent will also have a certain percentage of bluff here, his statistics could also give us certain information for a call
 
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