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Message: [QUOTE="Station_Master, post: 6795423, member: 1007778"] He has basically got an 8 or is bluffing on the river. So you need to consider how many 8s he arrives with, in a tighter configuration not many, but 4 handed BU v CO he is probably flatting all sorts. 87s, 98s, T8s, A8s, 88 maybe even 86s or J8s. Whereas bluffs you would expect are mostly flush draws, there's plenty available, but would they play this way or would they rather take a free card on the turn? Some of the 8s should fold flop, but your small sizing on the x-raise might have encouraged some floats. You would have to think 87 would 3bet. But there are still 6 combos of 88, 1 A8s, 4 98s, 1 T8s and maybe some others. It's probably a fold, but hard to fold a set in game. [/QUOTE]